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Tuesday, 24 May 2011

Judge admits evidence for Auschwitz is thin





Justice Gray, stated at the 2000 Irving vs Penguin & Lipstadt trial

"I expect you would accept, Professor (Richard) Evans (witness for the defence), just to move on, the number of overtly incriminating documents, wartime documents, as regards gas chambers is actually pretty few and far between?" Trial transcript: Day 20. Page 91

" ... the blue print material, which consists of a series of architectural drawings which depict the adaptation of (Auschwitz-Birkenau's) crematoria 2 and 3 and the construction of crematoria 4 and 5. None of these drawings refers overtly to any part of the buildings being designed or intended to serve as gas chambers whether for fumigation or extermination purposes. In particular the drawings for Leichenkeller (morgue) 1 in crematorium 2 make no provision for ducts or chimneys by means of which Zyklon-B pellets might be inserted through the roof." Judgement 7:59

"The Defendants accept that the physical evidence remaining at the site of Auschwitz provides little evidence to support the claim that gas chambers were operated there for genocidal purposes. The explanation, according to the Defendants, is that, after the revelations in the Allied media concerning the gas chambers at the camp at Majdanek in late 1944, Himmler ordered the dismantling of the extermination installations in the crematoria at Auschwitz. In late 1944 the Nazis duly dynamited the crematoria and destroyed the camp archives (or so they intended: as has been observed above, documents from the Central Construction Office accidentally survived)." Judgement 7:118

"I have to confess that, in common I suspect with most other people, I had supposed that the evidence of mass extermination of Jews in the gas chambers at Auschwitz was compelling. I have, however, set aside this preconception when assessing the evidence adduced by the parties in this proceeding."         Judgement 13:71

"What is the evidence for mass extermination of Jews at those camps? (meaning the Reinhart Camps not Auschwitz) The consequence of the absence of any overt documentary evidence of gas chambers at these camps, coupled with the lack of archaeological evidence, means that reliance has to be placed on eye witness and circumstantial evidence." Judgement 6:80

"I recognise the force of many of Irving's comments upon some of those categories. He is right to point out that the contemporaneous documents, such as drawings, plans, correspondence with contractors and the like, yield little clear evidence of the existence of gas chambers designed to kill humans. Such isolated references to the use of gas as are to be found amongst these documents can be explained by the need to fumigate clothes so as to reduce the incidence of diseases such as typhus. The quantities of Zyklon-B delivered to the camp may arguably be explained by the need to fumigate clothes and other objects." Judgement 13:73

"The possibility exists that some of these witnesses invented some or even all of the experiences which they describe. Irving suggested the possibility of cross-pollination, by which he meant the possibility that witnesses may have repeated and even embellished the (invented) accounts of other witnesses with the consequence that a corpus of false testimony is built up. Irving pointed out that parts of some of the accounts of some of the witnesses are obviously wrong or (like some of Olère’s drawings) clearly exaggerated. He suggested various motives why witnesses might have given false accounts, such as greed and resentment (in the case of survivors) and fear and the wish to ingratiate themselves with their captors (in the case of camp officials). Van Pelt accepted that these possibilities exist. I agree." Judgement 13:74





Posted by The Black Rabbit of Inlé at 20:48

2 comments:

  1. So the judge is saying there is no physical evidence?
    That it relies on witness statements.
    I heard there were as many witness statements for the camps in Allied hands and they were all fabrications.

    How on earth has the world come to believe this story then?
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    1. It fairness, Gray did go on to state:

      Conclusion

      13.91 Having considered the various arguments advanced by Irving to assail the effect of the convergent evidence relied on by the Defendants, it is my conclusion that no objective, fair-minded historian would have serious cause to doubt that there were gas chambers at Auschwitz and that they were operated on a substantial scale to kill hundreds of thousands of Jews.
      http://www.hdot.org/en/trial/judgement/13.41

      It's a religious tenant of faith that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz & Birkenau. Who needs tangible evidence when you have faith!

      Here's some details on the early eyewitness testimony from Auschwitz:
      http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.co.uk/2011/09/why-did-they-all-think-it-was-4000000.html
      http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.co.uk/2011/06/i-was-also-rescued-from-inside-gas.html

      And aside from gassings, they were electrocuting Jews on a conveyor belt
      http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/auschwitzs-conveyor-belt-nonsense-again.html

      Or killing them with a rollercoaster type thing:
      http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.co.uk/2011/05/auschwitz-death-by-roller-coaster.html
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