"When Israel Is Mighty" - Jewish Supremacy explained by Jewish writer Yossi Gurvitz
A revealing interview with an Israeli former Talmud student who attests to Judaism's racism and hatreds.
Scholar Michael Hoffman has noted: “Maimonides ruled that when Judaic persons are weak they should feign friendship for Christians as a way of gaining power over them. But when Judaics are totally dominant, as they are in the Israeli state, they should slaughter anyone who obstructs their supremacy.”Here is Jewish intellectual Yossi Gurvitz revealing the grim truth behind the ancient Jewish strategy of playing nice and friendly as long as Jews are in a relatively weak position, but of being totally without mercy “when Israel is mighty”.
Gurvitz also deals with Judaism's stance on the killing of non-Jews and their children, Jews and slavery, the rape of three-year olds(!), theft from non-Jews, the outrageous Jewish treatment of Christians...
The 12-minute interview is in Israeli Hebrew with English subtitles. Please see the interview and read the transcript below.
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Transcript of the Yossi Gurvitz Interview
Based on the transcript by Adrian Azzopardi in a comment on the original YouTube page
We all know what the rabbis say is the origin of Judaism.Moshe [Moses] passed the Torah down to the elders. The elders passed the Torah down to the prophets. And so all the way down to the Talmud. And there were no changes.
The central motif of the Jewish understanding of history is that there were no changes in the religion. In other words, what the rabbis are saying now are merely minor refinements of what the rabbis had said during the time of the Elders – the time of the Mishnah and the Talmud.
First of all, the problem with this version of history is that it is completely false. Secondly, there are a few historical problems connected with this distorted version of history, problems which continue to this day. This is due to the fact that Judaism, as a religion, has been frozen in time for the last 1800 years.
Generally speaking, rabbinical Judaism, as it appears in the Talmud, is the source of Judaism. Unlike what is generally taught in secular schools—where the source of Judaism is said to be the Bible—the actual source of Judaism is the Talmud. The people who wrote the Talmud are the people who decided what books should be included in the Biblical canon. What they decided wouldn’t go in to the Bible, was left out of the Bible.
So, for example, while the Catholic Church included the Books of the Maccabees in its version of the Biblical canon, Judaism excluded them. In fact, only the Greek version of these books was preserved. Whether there were Hebrew or Aramaic versions of them is an interesting question, but the fact is, only Christianity preserved them.
The Book of Judith, the Book of Tobias, and many other books dealing mostly with the Jews of the Diaspora, didn’t get into the Jewish Biblical canon. It remained for Christianity to preserve them.
The Judaism that preceded rabbinical Judaism, i.e., the Judaism of the Talmud, has been effectively erased from history. In other words, it’s not easy to know what happened and was taught before the advent of rabbinical Judaism. We know there were Sadducees. We know there were Pharisees, the name for the rabbinical Jews, And we know there were Essenes. However, we don’t know all that much about these other groups. The reason we don’t know much about these other groups is that one group, the Pharisees, survived as the ideological victors and made sure the other groups were more or less forgotten and sent down the memory hole of history. The victorious Pharisees established more than 10 religious holidays to celebrate their victories over the Sadducees, their ideological competitors.
One finds oneself bogged down in doubt and confusion as to what really took place. One fragment of information here, another fragment of information there. Nothing certain. You find yourself saying, “Maybe it was like this” or “Maybe it was like that.” It is impossible to determine what really happened.
One thing we do know is this, and we know it for certain: from the very earliest times, rabbinical Judaism—the religion of the Pharisees—was a religion that hated the rest of mankind. It defines only Jews as human beings. Only Jews who believed in rabbinical Judaism, as enshrined in the Talmud, were regarded as human and everyone else was excluded.
Let’s get this right: it defines only Jews who believe in Talmudic Judaism as full human beings. Everyone else is on a lower level. These inferior beings are seen as the ‘Other’. They must be rejected, pushed aside, and, in extreme cases, destroyed.
Rabbinical Jewish law does not prohibit the killing of a non-Jew? This is what you sometimes hear. But no, that is not strictly true. The rabbis do prohibit the killing of a non-Jew, but they do so in a very strange way: they refuse to punish a Jew who kills a non-Jew. If you kill a Jew, you get punished. If you kill even the slave of a Jew—and here it’s important to note that Orthodox Judaism has never abolished slavery—then there’s a stiff penalty you have to pay. It could come to execution. Or it could be a fine. You see, they didn’t have jails in those days. But if you kill a non-Jew, what then? No legal punishment! Yes, you’re guilty, but there is no penalty in law. God will punish you!
And that is—how shall I put it?—a bit problematic. When you say something is a crime, but there’s no punishment for committing the crime, then it’s not really a crime.
That’s the Talmud for you.
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When you come to the writers of later exegesis, especially the Shulhan Aruch, by that point the writer is already saying that there are situations where you can kill a non-Jew with impunity. Of course, this is written in the 16th century, after the expulsion the Jews from Spain [1492 C.E.], so the writer has be careful how he expresses himself and must make use of coded language. He therefore refers to the goyim—the gentile Christians—as “idolaters”.
Note that there weren’t any “pagans” left in that part of the world at this point in time. Not in Europe. Not in the Muslim world either. So who on earth could he be calling “idolaters”? Everyone knows who he is talking about. He is talking about non-Jews. The goyim.
The worst case, in my opinion, is the case of Maimonides, one of Judaism’s greatest and most respected philosophers. He decrees that it is permissible to have sexual intercourse with a 3-year-old girl. That is the age of “consent”. Problematic, no?
Secondly, and even more alarmingly, Maimonides decrees that if a Jew rapes a three-year-old non-Jewish girl, then the little girl must be executed. Yes, the gentile child must be executed for tempting the Jew to sin! The Jewish rapist himself is not executed. His life is spared.
For some reason, you have to treat the 3-year-old gentile girl like an animal. She is guilty of putting obstacles in a Jew’s spiritual path, and Maimonides quotes some verse or other about a bull…
The Rabbis know that the parts of Judaism that are misanthropic—that are deeply discriminatory to non-Jews—pose a problem for them. Because if they try to implement these rules of the religion, things could turn out rather badly for them. There could be extremely unpleasant consequences. If they tried to implement the rule that a 3 year-old gentile girl should be executed, for example, for tempting a Jew to commit rape, the result would be a pogrom.
So to avoid that situation of a pogrom, the Talmud defines two different states of reality. There is one called “Darkei Shalom”, meaning Peaceful Ways. In other words, the reasoning goes like this: “This is the actual religious law, this is how we are supposed to act. But we cannot act like this right now, because it would cause a huge mess and Jews would be killed. So we must behave discreetly and not take any punitive action.”
This is the meaning of “Darkei Shalom” or Peaceful Ways.
Now, for how long will this rule of discreet behavior—of “Peaceful Ways”—still apply? It applies only as long as Israel is relatively weak. As long as Israel has not acquired sufficient strength to do as it pleases.
When Israel is independent, when Israel is mighty, the whole ball game changes. Israel can then afford to be merciless—to do exactly what it likes.
Under those circumstances, it’s all over. You can go back to enforcing the letter of the law according to the Talmud. No more “Peaceful Ways” then! No more need for peaceful ways!
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Take Jewish history. Lots of people used to talk about the Hasmonean Wars. That was pretty much the only time that Jews wielded weapons. Think about what the Hasmoneans did to the Hellenized Jews who assimilated Greek culture. It made them extinct. It destroyed them. A small genocide.
I remind people of this frequently whenever Hanukkah rolls around. But they didn’t stop there, those Jews. They embarked on a campaign of looting and conquest. At the beginning, during their first 20 years, wherever they arrived, they would destroy the local temples. It was prohibited for a place that was under Jewish rule to have a pagan temple. That’s what we’re talking about—the full implementation of Jewish law.
The Jews forced the Edomites to convert to Judaism on pain of death. It was a forced conversion. It was exactly what the Spanish Inquisition later on did to the Jews. So the Jews took these foreign people and told them: “Either convert to Judaism or you’re dead!”
Things only got worse after that.
Nowadays, when religious Zionists look at the world around them, they say: “We’ve got a state. We’ve got weapons. We’ve got a Jewish army. This hasn’t happened for 2000 years! What can this mean? It obviously means that God has brought about this situation to enable us to take steps to bring about the Messiah. God wants us to build the temple.”
They skip over all the conditions that are imposed by the Talmud on what a Messiah must be, and they go back to Maimonides. Yes, they go back to Maimonides. And Maimonides says, “There is no difference between our time and the time of the Messiah, other than the subordination to kingdoms.” In other words, the only difference between the time of Maimonides, who died in 1204, and the time of the Messiah, is who is subordinate to whom.
Are the Jews subordinate to “kingdoms”, i.e., to other nations? Or can they now subordinate other nations to them? That is how Maimonides begins his Book of Kings. He explains what the rules are for a king, what a king can do. It emerges from the belief that, yes, there can be a king, and you don’t need to start off with a temple. You don’t need God to come down from heaven and point at someone and say, “That’s the Messiah!”
You can have a king first, a very powerful man, and if this heroic figure is a conqueror of nations, almighty in battle, then he will also be the Jewish Messiah. And then you look at what religious Zionists are doing about this. They want a Messiah. They want him now!
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There must be cleansings. Religious law prohibits contact with non-Jews. Of course, these Kosher laws prohibit you from even eating with the goyim. Other laws prohibit you from treating them fairly.
You are forbidden to return a lost item to a non-Jew—except in order to “keep the peace.” There is no prohibition from stealing from a non-Jew—except in order to “keep the peace.” You are not supposed say “hello” to them—unless there is no alternative. And so on and so forth.
There are all kinds of prohibitions that are entirely psychotic. Rules and regulations based on a religion of vengeance. Religious Zionists have a serious problem with the mere existence of non-Jews. The Land of Israel is supposed to be only for Jews.
Ironically, we Jews would manage to get along with Muslims if it weren’t for the fact that we are involved in military conflict with them. Because according to Judaism, Muslims are not idolaters. So we could get along with Muslims in theory.
Muslims believe in one God. So do we. Muslims don’t have idols, they don’t have statues, they don’t have anything like that. Nor do we. Look, during the Middle Ages, we Jews actually got along better with Muslims than with Christians.
But what can we do? We happened to conquer a territory populated mainly by Muslims, and so the Muslims are now fighting us. That’s too bad. And look, there is now even talk about genocide.
We have a holy book, the Torat Hamelech or King’s Torah, which tells us that we are free to kill children if there is a reason to believe that one day these children could grow up to harm us. If you killed a Palestinian’s entire family, and left only him alive, he will indeed have good reason to cause you harm one day. If you stole his lands and turned him into a refugee, driving him into Jordan or Lebanon, don’t you think he will have good reason to hate you and cause you harm?
Many people have said that this book’s arguments are not sound according to religious law, and so on and so forth. But no one has really tackled this problem head-on. It’s no wonder the book has become a bestseller!
In general, what religious Zionists want is for the Land of Israel to be for Jews only.
The situation for Christians, “when Israel is mighty”, will be really bad. This is because, according to Judaism, the Christians are idolaters. So they will have to be killed, even if they do not resist Jewish rule.
In Jerusalem, Jewish religious students in the seminaries have a despicable habit: they urinate and defecate all over Christian churches. Go and talk to the church staff. You will hear it from every church, that this is going on. Spitting on clergymen in the street is something that happens every single day.
If the priest has the courage to hit the Jewish troublemaker back, to slap him or something similar, he is deported. Quietly. They cancel his residence permit in the country.
If you want to justify a pogrom, all you have to do is say the words “Missionary Threat”.
From that perspective, Christianity, which is the historical arch-enemy of Judaism, is going to get a serious beating once the religious Zionists are in power.
The Christian Fundamentalists who send them money apparently don’t understand what they are dealing with.
But you know, it’s really a case of “a pox on both your houses”.
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